Unclear And Present Danger

At the risk of sounding a little Ron Paulish, what in the hell are we doing abroad? We have active military engagements in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Libya and Somalia. The CIA is running drone missions in Yemen. We have undercut a loyal ally - Hosni Mubarak, who did nothing beyond honor his commitments to the US and Israel, and keep the non-Muslims living in Egypt safe.

We are allowing Iran to develop nukes, and we are sitting idly by while Bashir Assad slaughters and tortures his people by the thousands. Our one true ally in the area, Israel, is painfully aware that they are on their own. We ask again - what the hell are we doing?

Lets go in some sort of order. We went into Afghanistan because that was where the terrorists trained, under the protection of the Taliban government. An act of war was taken against us on September 11, 2001, and we responded in kind. That one was pretty straight forward- send in the military to kill people and break things. It is what the military does. Every nation on the planet stood with us in this mission.

Then we lost our way. The neo-cons wanted to do some nation building in our image. The problem is that democracy is not plug and play. Someone thought it was a good idea to run "our guy" Hamid Karzai for President of Afghanistan, as an example to the Afghan people. The Afghan people learned from the example - there is a corrupt, inept government that controls Kabul, and nothing else. The USMC and Special Forces teams are roaming through the rest of the country playing whack-a-mole with the Taliban. This is not nation building. It is managing a colony.

Iraq was the great detour of 2003. We never understood the diversion, other than Saddam was a thorn in W's side. We tried the same thing as Afghanistan and tried to put our guy in charge - Ahmed Chalabi, who turned out to be equally corrupt. The difference in Iraq was that the government that was formed told us to take a hike, fought it out among themselves, and have the foundations of a democratic government that has been agreed to by all parties (except the remaining terrorists). All we did was provide security for a time, at the request of the legitimately elected government. All we do now is provide training.

Obama promised during the 2008 campaign, that if he recieved actionable intelligence on Osama bin Laden, he would act on it. He took a lot of hell for saying that out loud, but that is what he did. He ordered a military incursion into Pakistan without informing the government, and OBL is dead. Still, if the situation were reversed, we would be talking "act of war".

While we are at it, our military regularly crosses the Afghan / Pakistan border in pursuit of terrorist and Taliban targets. Drones are constantly firing on targets in Pakistan. The Pakistan government constantly objects. The Pakistani government helps our foes as often as it helps us. We are told it is complicated. It is not complicated. Pakistan is not our ally. W ignored the problem and concentrated on Iraq. Obama has decided to treat Pakistan as a rebellious province. Once again, not nation-building - just managing a colony with threats and bribery.

We have no business in Libya at all. No western country has cared one way or the other about Libya since Reagan bombed his compound in the 80s'. Gadaffi presented no threat to us, or to his own citizens who didn't cause trouble. You're not hearing it in the papers, but he still has great support in half the country. These are the people stepping up to fight for him. Whether you think it's our business or not (and we believe not), we are not there for the purpose that Obama claimed - to prevent the bloodshed of Libyan civilians - a lot of them are getting killed. On our watch. Or France's - since that makes us feel better.

We are there for one simple reason - Gadaffi was shaking down Britain, France and Italy for more. More money for Libyan oil. Libya produces 10% of the world's oil, and all of it goes across the Mediterranean to Europe. More favors - BP and Scotland released a perfectly healthy Lockerbie bomber on the humanitarian grounds that he was dying. We guess that says it all about the British healthcare system. And more personal favors - western education at the best schools for his sons, newer military equipment that we are now destroying, and more influence with the West. Quite the bargain for Gadaffi. Maybe we should put him across the bargaining table from Obama.

So how does that get us into Libya? Europe was dealing with it's own rebellious colony. It's their problem. Except that Europe doesn't own a real military anymore. Oh, they will provide some soldiers and pilots, but we supply the equipment, the ammunition, the intelligence, the logistics, and as always, the money. In Libya, we are engaged in a proxy war on a rebellious colony (Libya) for a client state (Europe). On top of that, it is not in our national interest, which we will find out as the Islamists take the levers of power in Libya, as they are now doing in Egypt.

In Somalia were are hunting terrorists and pirates. There is effectively no Somali government, so we are managing another colony. In Yemen we are hunting down the same terrorists that we released there when we emptied out Guantanamo Bay. We are in effect, propping up "our guy" - another corruupt despot, who we put in jeopardy by unloading all of our terrorists within his borders.

There is no strategy - just our armed forces keeping a bunch of random plates spinning on their sticks. It is as if Obama sees that there is some trouble, sends in the military to handle it (whether they are the right tool or not), but tells them not to make too much noise.

In the meantime, Assad and Ahmadinejad laugh at us and do what they want. Both countries fall within our national interest. Both are threats to our actual ally - Israel. Syria will only be a threat to Israel, they have no influence beyond that. Even in defining that threat, they are nothing without Iran's active support. Still, the events there bear witness that the Obama Administration is not concerned with civilians getting killed. Assad has acted in a manner that would make Gadaffi blush.

Iran however, seeks to increase it's influence in the region, and in the world. A nuclear armed Iran would significantly increase it's power and make it the dominant country in an area of vital national interest - the oil fields of the Middle East. The U.S. spent the bulk of the 80's having Iran and Iraq keep each other busy so that neither gained an upper hand. Iraq is hamstrung now, and the only other player of effect in the region, is Egypt. You remember a few weeks ago when the "new" Egyptian goverment allowed passage of an Iranian Navy battle group through the Suez for the first time since the Islamic Revolution? We don't think we can count on Egypt anymore.

Common Sense Dictates

"What the hell are we doing?" is a legitimate question. We have asked it more delicately before. Now we need to be demanding an answer of our leaders. It has been said in conservative circles that President Obama is incompetent. It has been floated in some more passionate circles that he is bent on the destruction of America as we know it. We at TPP do know the reasons and we do not care. We read history, and history instructs.

In the years preceding the fall of the Roman Empire, the sitting Caesars fought numerous ill-advised wars simultaneously to protect distant holdings or to protect friendly vassal states. The mighty Roman Army - at the time the most formidable fighting force on the planet - was stretched to it's limits; beyond it's limits really. So was the treasury of Rome. Wars cost money. This left Rome ill-equipped to deal with actual threats to it's own existence - the "barbarians" of northern Europe. These northern tribes studied the Romans and engaged them in small battles. Eventually they banded together and Rome fell.

We are walking that walk. Our military is overstretched maintaining the "peace" when it should be used for making war. Our treasury is depleted. We have ill-defined missions that have gone way beyond their initial intention. We are involved in conflicts in which we have no national interest, and we are creating problems for ourselves because we are reacting to events, rather than crafting strategy. We have revived colonialism from the dustbin of history as our current means of statecraft. This is what brought down Rome. We would prefer for America to avoid the same fate.

In fairness, this is not just a problem with the Obama Administration. The Bush Administration got sold a bill of goods on nation building. Clinton ignored as much as he could that fell outside of our borders. Bush the first never looked within the borders of our country to determine what was in our interest. The last President who had a well-thought out foreign and military policy was Reagan with regard to the Soviet threat. It sums up simply enough - "We win, you lose". His policies all followed that rule of thumb.

We do NOT seek a Ron Paul isolationism. There are threats in the world, and we need to address them. Sometimes that will require the military to move beyond our shores. We should lead, but we should not let the rest of the world go for a piggy back ride on our military strength, and on our dime. If France needs to protect one of it's vital interests, it needs to do so. Not hide behind America's apron strings, and dipping into our wallets. If that costs them a social program, well choices are what being an adult is all about.

The time has come for us to accept that America needs to act in America's best interest. Peace is not always the answer, and the military should not be the default choice when dealing with the rest of the world. Our men and women volunteer for military service to defend OUR freedom. If that benefits other nations, that's a benefit, not a reason to put them in harm's way.

The State Department needs to act in America's interest. That is their job. We can broker whenever we are asked, but our actions must advance our interests. Our actions must never go against the interest of America. That has too often been the case of late. We need to go back to the Common Sense that what is good for America, is good for the world.

We are not colonizers, we are not seeking hegemony over other people. We defend ourselves, and when possible we advance the cause of liberty. Sometimes it works - as in post WWII Europe and Japan. Sometimes it doesn't - Afghanistan comes to mind. Our way works for our people. Our way works for those who eagerly want our way. Our way does not work by imposing it. It is not our job to take up the "white man's burden" of educating the people we that deem need educating. It is our job to keep our enemies from taking us down. Anyone who wants to come along for the ride, we're fine with it. You need to chip in for gas though. No freeloaders. So says Common Sense.

RLB

 

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  • 8/26/2011 6:34 AM Tony wrote:
    The Roman Empire fell for three reasons:
    1) Decreased cilviity in political discussion coupled with increased violence in sporting events.
    2) Gross fiscal mismanagement by the central government
    3) An over stretched and over committed military in foreign lands.

    Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
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  • 8/26/2011 9:12 AM George wrote:
    Not anything wrong with sounding Ron Paulish. After all, it also sounds remarkably Russell Kirk-ish and George Will-ish. And if anyone is reading those names and they don't ring a bell, then you've got some reading to do.... here's a starting point or two: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/03/20/george-will-warns-of-mission-creep-in-libya/

    http://www.amconmag.com/blog/2011/02/18/in-purging-paul-yaf-purges-kirk-meyer-and-its-own-history/
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  • 8/26/2011 1:44 PM jeannie wrote:
    Don't forget Korea...
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  • 8/26/2011 1:49 PM govissue wrote:
    You've made this argument a few times, and I've agreed with you every time. We really need to figure out what is best for America's interest before shipping our troops into harm's way. I understood Afghanistan as delivering punishment. Never would have thought it would go 10 years. I was even ok with Iraq once the surge was put in place. Bush wasn't the smartest guy, but no one else acted up on his watch. Even Gaddaffi was making nice after we went into Iraq. Obama just isn't consistent, and it's causing a lot of the trouble. The real bad guys are not being punished and the ones who sort of side with us are getting screwed. It's not good.
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  • 8/27/2011 9:46 AM trish wrote:
    The problem with world powers is the people they are beholden to at any given time. The corporate business men and women, the oil, they global position, favors owed to someone, the need to kow tow for many numbers of reasons are why troops are fighting in places they do not need to be in.
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  • 8/28/2011 1:12 PM Patrick wrote:
    Obama has us doing everything possible to advance the muslim brotherhood !
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  • 8/28/2011 3:36 PM modoman wrote:
    It has been said by someone wiser than me that one should never ascribe evil motives to what can easily be explained by incompetence. I don't see some conspiracy to end America. I see a guy who has never had any sort of a real job that required decision making. I see a guy who has never produced anything. I see a guy who has been coddled through the finest Ivy League schools, Illinois politics, the US Senate and a Presidential campaign. Incompetence explains it. 2012 will show whether the voters are incompetent as well.
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  • 8/28/2011 5:25 PM bagorocks wrote:
    Can't remember who said it, but America will never be destroyed from outside. We will commit suicide from within.
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  • 8/29/2011 9:54 AM nan connelly wrote:
    Hey - what's going on with the Lockerbie bomber? Last week he was living a life of luxury, and this week he's supposed to be near death? Is this all because we want to try him here and want him handed over?
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  • 8/29/2011 10:17 AM john wrote:
    The US made no formal request for the bomber to be turned over - that was, I think, Romney on TV the other day. Nobody knows where the bomber is - all info is coming from the his brother. there aren't any details, just that he's in a coma. I saw the "life of luxury" articles too. It might not be the cancer, if he ever had it. there have been a lot of bombs going off in Libya. Maybe he's injured. Either way, if he goes to Allah sooner than later, it's okay with me.
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  • 8/30/2011 3:09 PM oc taxman wrote:
    There's not much tosay here, except that you're right. The way we aredealing with the world is dangerous. The inconsistent reactions add to the instability because no one knows what we will do - friend or foe. We need to fix this.
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  • 8/31/2011 11:12 AM sandstormer wrote:
    Bringing up a point that is sort of raised - the inconsistencies are dangerous. The steady foreign policy of the United States has provided stability since WWII. The last time things got out of had was under Carter, and what happened? The USSR invaded Afghanistan, Iran took our embassy, and we we're a laughingstock among our "friends" and enemies. We need to project a stable, strong and steady picture of what to expect from us, or we increase the risk of trouble brewing everywhere in the world.
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  • 9/21/2011 5:26 PM Eddie wrote:
    Really great article with one exception, I believe We went into Iraq because Sadam decided to take currencies other than the dollar for his oil! Imagine the effect on China when they realized they were holding those dollars they no longer needed to buy oil? It would have decimated the dollar as the worlds currency! The Chinese have would been left holding trillions in worthless dollars!
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  • 10/6/2011 7:22 PM Cesar wrote:
    Lets give the taliban what they want and in turn tell them ***holes to stay in there part of the world. And as for Baghdad SCREW YOU !and to IRAN right back at ya Jerks! And to those who dont like America and what it stands for ???? STAY OUT OF THES COUNTRY and DONT worry what we do here you INFEDELLS!
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  • 10/6/2011 8:05 PM Eddie wrote:
    We should tell Iran that the first nuke that leaves their airspace,and We turn their whole country into a glass parking lot!
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  • 10/16/2011 10:31 AM Irene wrote:
    Ron Paul is not wanting isolationism...Best check your facts better on him...
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  • 10/29/2011 2:57 AM Irene wrote:
    Ron Paul isolationism....Protecting America is not Isolationism...Perhaps you need to listen to him more....
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  • 11/26/2011 10:57 AM dale wrote:
    America does indeed need to act in America's best interests. However, our Administration is not concerned with America's best interests. Until we change that by changing the Administration, none of the other will change. Thanks for the post.
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  • 11/27/2011 8:54 AM BuddyLama wrote:
    "It is our [government's Constitutionally defined] job to keep our enemies from taking us down. However, in today's world we cannot sit idly by ignoring the world until ship's masts to appear on the horizon.

    Readily available warfare technologies deny us the luxury of waiting to react after an attack. To ignore all of the very real threats against us is not merely negligence, but criminal, as it will result in the death of thousands or hundreds of thousands of our fellow Citizens.

    The only real question is: what are the most cost effect means of detecting and preventing attacks against us? Ignoring the "bad man" will not make him go away. History repeatedly proves isolationism is no solution; live and let live only works if EVERYONE in the world agrees. Clearly they do not.

    Is it possible for Peace to come at too high a price?  I say, unequivocally YES.  I also say that, Diplomacy absent a credible threat of force is inevitably impotent.  Or as Will Rogers said, “Diplomacy is just a way of saying ‘nice doggy’ until you can find a rock.”  And the last I checked, doves were food for hawks, and weakness breeds contempt, which is why I advocate peace through superior firepower.
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  • 12/31/2011 5:57 PM Xavier wrote:
    We're allowing the Establishment warhawks to drag us into yet another undeclared (and therefore illegal) war that will undoubtedly kill thousands of Iranians, cost us several billion dollars, and create animosity and blowback for decades to come... if we don't cause WWIII.
    Wednesday at 11:42am · Like
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